Sunday, October 5, 2008

II Corinthians 5

4 comments:

In The Masters Hands said...

I really like this chapter, I was reading it this morning(monday) and just wanted to say, I love the way it talks about our life in Christ now as we are living and after we are gone. Death don't seem as scary when you think about it from this perspective "v.8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." I also like the verse that says "that if one died for all, then were all dead:" Its great to know that as a believer, I am dead to sin in Christ, and that in Him I am a new creature, God placed my sin on Him ,who new no sin and counts Jesus's righteouness as my righteousness. That its not because of anything I have done, because I couldn't do anything that would account as righteouness or good, but it is all because of what Christ done for me. well that is how I read this chapter, I know that is also more than this, its about our works and how they will be judged and about our rewards, but to me its about life in Christ, and how that my works are because of Him and the work completed in me by Him. Its all about Him!!!
Sorry I haven't left many comments lately over here in the prayer closet, Its not because I haven't been reading the chapters, I have, I just sometimes feel so inadequate at putting how I read something into words that make since but i do so enjoy this and love all ya'lls comments They make great food for thought during my day.
Brandie

Unknown said...

Loved your sharing Brandie. I wanted to "sit" on this chapter for a day. It evoked alot of emotions in me, and I am really trying to wait to share anything both in real life and the blogosphere until the emotions are subdued.

I have been struggling to understand people who are riding the "freedom" train and whose every word seems to be about the "freedom" and grace we have in Christ. I acknowledge wholeheartedly that He is our salvation, our saving grace, our justification, and praise His holy name for it. But that's not all there is to this wonderful and complex relationship of Lord and bondservant. I see it confirmed very clearly here for me and it affirms me in my convictions and passions (which I direly needed, I was beginning to wonder if I really am slightly off my rocker).

I am not going to focus on the justification aspect, because that is a given. I want to go PAST that... the next step if you will. *Because* I have been justified, freely by His grace, not because of any good in me.....

v9 "Our only goal is to please God... because we must all stand before Christ to be judged. Each of us will receive what he should get-good or bad-for the things we did in the earthly body."

I had already been contemplating crowns and reward the other day, so this was interesting that it came up today (I wasn't looking ahead, I promise!). Just because we are justified (make it into the Olympic venue) does not mean we will stand on the podium and receive gold, silver or bronze medals for works done in the flesh. That *does* appear to depend on our performance and wether or not our "only goal is to please God."

v12 "Proud about things that are seen rather than what is in the heart. If we are out of our minds it is for God."

I needed to hear this. I was quite nearly set apart as being "out of my mind" by someone in my life a week or so ago. Basically told that I live in my own little bubble of ideals and don't have a clue about real life." I didn't quite know how to take that. Granted it was coming from someone living in their own little bubble of human pain and consequences, and really, our perceptions are so bent and blurred by our own circumstances and experiences that what are they worth really? We see dimly.

But all that said, I had to wonder if that should be something to be ashamed of? The fact that I seek to consciously view things from an eternal and spiritual paradigm rather than momentary and physical. Does that make me "out of my mind" in some people's eyes? Probably. I guess that what it looks like to be a "stranger, foreigner, who does not consider this earth to be their home, but just a momentary sojourning to the final destination". To people who are living in the moment, consumed by "things that are seen"... the one focusing on things unseen would seem "odd" at best.

v15 Free to serve a wonderful master.

Oh! Does this ever tie up perfectly what I have been thinking the past week. FREE to SERVE. FREE from the slavery of sin, to become bondservants to the King of Righteousness. It goes on to say;

"Christ died for all so that those who live would NOT CONTINUE TO LIVE FOR THEMSELVES. He died for them and was raised from the dead so that they would LIVE FOR HIM.

When I hear people who are completely focused on FREEDOM and GRACE and LOVE, I hear them, but there is a niggling concern within me that something is missing. Yes we are saved by all those things, but the result of the freedom and grace that we have been lavished with, result in hearts fully surrendered and indentured to the one who bought us. It's not ALL about freedom. It doesn't END there. That is the BEGINNING. *Because* we have been given freedom and grace, and love beyond measure we serve our new and perfect master with great joy and fulness of heart. Our only goal becomes to please God as this chapter started out with. Because He has purchased our pardon and secured our futures. We are blessed bondservants indeed to have been purchased out of the kingdom of darkness and delivered into the kingdom of light and righteousness. May I act accordingly to one in His charge and family. May I honor my family name may my only goal be to please Him... because of HIs great love for me. May I not be so solely focused on His great love for me, that I forget to concentrate on what it means for ME to love Him.

In The Masters Hands said...

I heard a statement made by a wonderful preacher down here in our neck of the woods the other day, He mentioned someone saying He was nuts(in regards to his way of worship and beliefs)and he responded "I may be, but I'm screwed on the right bolt and having the time of my life" and I agree wholeheartedly with him and you, We aren't redeemed so that we can continue on in the way in which we were, We are redeemed so that may serve our Redeemer, not out of selfish ambitions but out of love and joy, For our blessed and wonderful saviour, So that one day our Heavenly father will be able to look at us and say Well done my good and faithful servant. I believe the bible teaches us to serve not as men pleasers, seeking the attention of and glory from men, but to serve with our whole self, body, mind and spirit, out of love for Christ and a desire to bring glory and honor to Him, To decrease so that He might increase. After all, weren't we created so that He might have someone to love Him and give him praise and glory, someone with whom He might have a relationship and share His love with. I think that all to often we focus on what He can do, or has done for us and we forget about what He wants from us, and what we should be doing for Him, about what it means to Him for someone to love and worship Him.

Berry Girl said...

I love this passage too. The last section particularly (v12-21). I needed the reminder that if we are in Christ we are a new creation - the past no longer holds us in bondage, we have become new.

"For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him"
Beautiful.