Okay, questions here. I thought this passage was always referring to the depravity of man... "The Lord looked down on ALL people to see if ANYONE understood. if ANYONE was looking to God for help. But ALL have turned away, together, EVERYONE has become evil. there is NO ONE who does anything good, NOT EVEN ONE." vv 1b,2-3
But today I have questions. Is this one of those laments that people make in their despair and depression? Is it David saying this hyperbollicaly (is that even a word?) when the whole world looks like it's going to pot around him? Kind of like Elijah in 1 Kings 19 where he is so convinced that all have deserted the Lord and follow Baal but the Lord assures him there are 7,000 (possibly a reference to a "perfectly complete" group rather than a literal number of 7,000? Or not.) in the land who have not crossed over to Baal.
I ask this for a number of reasons. First of all, the context opens speaking of fools. Unbelieving fools, there isn't a one who can or does anything good.
But then it goes into this "all people" speal and that seems pretty universal, no question there.
But then in verses 4-6 it goes back to the wicked and how depraved they are and right smack in the middle, in verse 5 it references "God being with those who do what is right."
But we were just told that NOONE does right, NOONE does anything good. NOT EVEN ONE.
So is this a carefully composed theological treatise laying out truths about the law of total depravity or is it just a confused desperate crying out of a depressed and badgered man in a dark moment. Fighting to break free from the bonds of worldly despair to focus on the sovreign God who is above all and who, even when we don't see it, is working in the lives of many who seek righteousness from the ashes of trespass.
huh. good questions. Matthew Henry said: The disease of sin has infected the whole race of mankind. They are all gone aside, there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Whatever good is in any of the children of men, or is done by them, it is not of themselves, it is God's work in them. They are gone aside from the right way of their duty, the way that leads to happiness, and are turned into the paths of the destroyer. Let us lament the corruption of our nature, and see what need we have of the grace of God: let us not marvel that we are told we must be born again. And we must not rest in any thing short of union with Christ, and a new creation to holiness by his Spirit. The psalmist endeavours to convince sinners of the evil and danger of their way, while they think themselves very wise, and good, and safe. Their wickedness is described. Those that care not for God's people, for God's poor, care not for God himself. People run into all manner of wickedness, because they do not call upon God for his grace.
I like Henry. Thanks for sharing that. I still have nagging questions though. But they are those round and round without end questions though, so I will just not dwell on them.
Are you guys home or are you off getting a christmas tree with the wheelin' gang?
We are reading our way through the bible one chapter per day. The idea behind my personal reading plan is to read through books chronologically, but not solely one book at a time. Thus on Monday we read from the books of the law, Tuesday the books of kings and judges, Wednesday the books of Jewish History, Thursday Books of Wisdom, Friday the Prophets, Saturday the Gospels and Sunday the Epistles. The next Monday we pick up at the chapter we left off in ancient history. You may think that this would be disjointed and would cause you to "lose your groove" but I have found the contrary to be true, the threads of promise, redemption and grace show up more clearly as I make my way slowly through these books in a parrallel fashion and when I pick up where I left off a week before I am reminded of things that stood out to me from last week's reading. Journaling is a big part of my processing scripture and fixing particular tidbits in my mind for the purpose of life application. I would love to have you join me!
Basic Reading Plan
Mon (Law): Genesis-Joshua
Tues (Rulers): Judges-Chronicles
Wed (History): Ezra-Psalms
Thurs (Wisdom): Prov-Jer
Fri (Prophets): Lam-Malachi
Sat (Gospels): Matthew-Acts
Sun (Epistles) Romans-Revelation.
The theme I have given each section is general. Joshua is not a book of the law and Psalms is not a book of history. The main chunk of reading in each section is, however, suitably classified as the theme it is under. In order to make the sections even out to have the same general number of books/chapters, this was the closest I could come. Otherwise one would be reading through certain sections (like the Law) for instance, much more often than the wisdom books, etc.
(Fellowship is) an expression of both love and humility. [It] springs from a desire to bring benefit to others, coupled with a sense of personal weakness and need. It has a double motive – the wish to help, and to be helped; to edify, and to be edified. It has a double aim – to do, and to receive, good. It is a seeking by Christian people to know God better through sharing with each other what, individually, they have learned of Him already. J.I. Packer.
A few introductory words of encouragement....
Think of your time feeding on God's Word as a vital aspect of your health and wellness. You wouldn't go a week without brushing your teeth, or eating physical food, don't treat the nourishing of your soul by the Word of God with any less care.
Don't cram multiple chapters if you fall behind of plan, but *do* "back-read" if you have the passion and earnest desire to do so. My habit if I miss a chapter is usually to leave it until that book comes up again the next week (based on my own reading plan) and then read two consecutive chapters rather than the one I am scheduled to read.
Don't be legalistic about the when and how. If you don't get a quiet time in the morning, THAT'S OKAY. Find a moment in the afternoon to grab a drink, sit down and put your feet up, and soak up a chapter. And if that doesn't happen, THAT'S OKAY. Take 15-20 minutes at the end of the day to plump some pillows up in your bed and soak it up before you go to sleep. And if that doesn't happen, IT'S OKAY. Tomorrow is a new day. Don't let the enemy discourage you from spending time in the word TODAY because you didn't YESTERDAY. That's just dumb. Did you get that? DUMB.
If you don't have time to read, meditate. Allow God to bring a passage of scripture to mind and allow yourself to listen. Take time to be quiet in your spirit. While you are washing dishes, folding laundry, vacuuming... cleaning bathrooms.
Spruce things up. Get yourself a PRETTY journal and jot down little things that stand out to you. Use your favourite mug or a pretty glass to pour your favourite drink. Sit in your favourite spot (this could change from day to day and depending on the time of day you read. A sunny spot on the porch in the morning, a wing back chair and a blanket if it's chilly, a garden swing in the shade on a hot afternoon, or plumped up in bed with soft lamplight in the evening. Again, don't be legalistic about the location, pick a happy spot that fits the moment/opportunity.) Oh, and DON'T wait for the pretty journal. Plain lined notepaper or even a crumpled scrap paper will work just FINE until you get one....
Remember while you read, God's word is FOR YOU. yes, it was written to a particular audience in a particular time in history and for a particular reason. But it was also written with YOU in mind, TODAY in mind, and is designed to give you strength and wisdom for the journey.
Claim ONE part of the passage and take it to heart. Read through the chapter without too much introspection at first and see what part most stands out to you. Go back and look at that part more specifically and ask yourself what is in there for YOU?
Ask relevant questions. I usually look at a passage with 2 questions in mind. 1. What does this passage tell me about God's character? 2. What does this passage tell me about humanity (ie, ME, in relation to God? a final and very important question to ask is "What does this passage require of me on a practical level?" Write down one attitude, practice or truth you want you live out TODAY in light of what God has just revealed to you. This is how we take ownership of the Word of God and allow it to relate to us and shape us on a personal level.
Build yourself a monument. As I ponder a passages relevance to me I journal the thoughts that arise. Jotting them down somehow cements my convictions in my mind, almost like laying out stones in a monument so I can go back to that place later and be reminded. I also use those notes to come here and share my thoughts later with others.
Keep your actual quiet time concise. This will help make it more likely the habit will continue to happen on a regular basis. Better to spend 15 minutes in the word daily, than 1 hour once a week.
Don't require absolute "alone" and uninterrupted time (without kids around). If they are around, they can learn to not interrupt you for 15 minutes, just like you spend time with other people when they are around, you can spend time with the Lord with them around too.
Think of God’s Word as a love letter to you. When you read stories of God’s wrath in the Old Testament, think about WHAT love paid the price for all that wrath and how a hand that once smote anyone who dared touch the ark of His covenant now beckons YOU to draw near to the throne of grace. Read everything in light of who God is and how much He loves mankind that in spite of our being so deprived, His love story reaches out, encompasses us, washes us clean, and seeks to draw us near.
May you seek Him, may He be found by you, and may you be blessed on the journey.
3 comments:
Okay, questions here. I thought this passage was always referring to the depravity of man... "The Lord looked down on ALL people to see if ANYONE understood. if ANYONE was looking to God for help. But ALL have turned away, together, EVERYONE has become evil. there is NO ONE who does anything good, NOT EVEN ONE." vv 1b,2-3
But today I have questions. Is this one of those laments that people make in their despair and depression? Is it David saying this hyperbollicaly (is that even a word?) when the whole world looks like it's going to pot around him? Kind of like Elijah in 1 Kings 19 where he is so convinced that all have deserted the Lord and follow Baal but the Lord assures him there are 7,000 (possibly a reference to a "perfectly complete" group rather than a literal number of 7,000? Or not.) in the land who have not crossed over to Baal.
I ask this for a number of reasons. First of all, the context opens speaking of fools. Unbelieving fools, there isn't a one who can or does anything good.
But then it goes into this "all people" speal and that seems pretty universal, no question there.
But then in verses 4-6 it goes back to the wicked and how depraved they are and right smack in the middle, in verse 5 it references "God being with those who do what is right."
But we were just told that NOONE does right, NOONE does anything good. NOT EVEN ONE.
So is this a carefully composed theological treatise laying out truths about the law of total depravity or is it just a confused desperate crying out of a depressed and badgered man in a dark moment. Fighting to break free from the bonds of worldly despair to focus on the sovreign God who is above all and who, even when we don't see it, is working in the lives of many who seek righteousness from the ashes of trespass.
Questions, questions.
huh. good questions.
Matthew Henry said:
The disease of sin has infected the whole race of mankind. They are all gone aside, there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Whatever good is in any of the children of men, or is done by them, it is not of themselves, it is God's work in them. They are gone aside from the right way of their duty, the way that leads to happiness, and are turned into the paths of the destroyer.
Let us lament the corruption of our nature, and see what need we have of the grace of God: let us not marvel that we are told we must be born again. And we must not rest in any thing short of union with Christ, and a new creation to holiness by his Spirit.
The psalmist endeavours to convince sinners of the evil and danger of their way, while they think themselves very wise, and good, and safe. Their wickedness is described. Those that care not for God's people, for God's poor, care not for God himself. People run into all manner of wickedness, because they do not call upon God for his grace.
Does that help?
I like Henry. Thanks for sharing that. I still have nagging questions though. But they are those round and round without end questions though, so I will just not dwell on them.
Are you guys home or are you off getting a christmas tree with the wheelin' gang?
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