Tuesday, February 3, 2009

1 Samuel 16

4 comments:

Berry Girl said...

so I'm interested in a couple of things here.
First, why were the elders afraid of Samuel? "the elders of the town trembled at his coming and said, 'do you come peaceably?'"

Second, I wonder what it was like to have the Spirit of the Lord on you in those days. And was that a rare thing? Would it have been much like it is today for us?

Third, the distressing spirit from the Lord. It seems to be against God's character to send "distressing" spirits, no? What is that exactly? we spend a lot of time talking about "the little voices" that we sometimes listen to in our heads, and how those thoughts are not from the Lord...isn't that the same thing here, only it IS from the Lord?

Unknown said...

"God does not see the same way people see. People look at the outside of a person, but the Lord looks at the heart." v7

The Lord looks at the heart. I wish our society obsessed about their "spiritual fitness" as much as they obsessed about physical fitness. I wish the hours invested in the good pursuit of physical fitness were balanced by hours invested in spiritual nurture and ministry. Not that the desire to be healthy or presentable is wrong, but the balance, or lack of it is rather disheartening.

It was David, who spent quiet hours writing love songs to the Lord and who had a heart that was passionate for pursuing righteousness despite all of his shortcomings and weaknesses, and who had the humility to fall on his face and confess what the sins he harbored in his heart that was "king" worthy in the eyes of the Lord. I've often thought that David wasn't a man after God's heart because he was a righteous man, but because he was humble, and desperately recognized his need for more of the Lord and less of himself.

I think that God sometimes lets evil spirits have their way with us, in order to accomplish His purposes. Even just in the past few days I have had to reach a spiritual low, in order to recognize how much I desire him, how much the things of this earth don't and won't satisfy, in order to cry out for Him to fill me again so that I am fulfilled and strengthened, and happy and have a sense of purpose and delight in life because of HIM.

I think evil spirits are around us all the time, and that God (and our own choices) says "yay or nay" as to their proximity. I think the farther we find ourselves from Him, the closer He (and we) allows those evil spirits to encroach on us, until we "remember" that indeed, His presence is where the peace and joy, love and fulfillment, protection and grace reside and we turn our back on the things of this world (and the evil spirits that long to attract us to them) and flee to Him.

I think the evil voices are from the devil... but that God uses them to provoke us to wake up and reach for Him, to go higher up and deeper in and leave the crap behind.

Berry Girl said...

I still don't know. An evil spirit CANNOT be from God. It makes no sense. Certainly the farther removed we are from God the more open & vulnerable we are to satan's attack...but it's an entirely different thing for God to SEND the distressing spirit.
I will mull.

what does your translation say? Verses 14 & 15.

Unknown said...

I think maybe you're getting hung up on "from God". (that's exactly what my translation says by the way "An evil spirit from God is troubling you". I think it comes down to sovreignty. Think of the dynamics in the Satan/Job/God story. You could say God "sent" Satan to test Job in the same way I think this passage is using the term. God was not the instigator, that was Satan, but at the same time, Satan couldn't get anywhere near Job without God's say so, thus, God was definitely a part of the whole "satan went unto Job" to test him. Interesting topic, you've got me pondering too....