so I'm interested in a couple of things here. First, why were the elders afraid of Samuel? "the elders of the town trembled at his coming and said, 'do you come peaceably?'"
Second, I wonder what it was like to have the Spirit of the Lord on you in those days. And was that a rare thing? Would it have been much like it is today for us?
Third, the distressing spirit from the Lord. It seems to be against God's character to send "distressing" spirits, no? What is that exactly? we spend a lot of time talking about "the little voices" that we sometimes listen to in our heads, and how those thoughts are not from the Lord...isn't that the same thing here, only it IS from the Lord?
"God does not see the same way people see. People look at the outside of a person, but the Lord looks at the heart." v7
The Lord looks at the heart. I wish our society obsessed about their "spiritual fitness" as much as they obsessed about physical fitness. I wish the hours invested in the good pursuit of physical fitness were balanced by hours invested in spiritual nurture and ministry. Not that the desire to be healthy or presentable is wrong, but the balance, or lack of it is rather disheartening.
It was David, who spent quiet hours writing love songs to the Lord and who had a heart that was passionate for pursuing righteousness despite all of his shortcomings and weaknesses, and who had the humility to fall on his face and confess what the sins he harbored in his heart that was "king" worthy in the eyes of the Lord. I've often thought that David wasn't a man after God's heart because he was a righteous man, but because he was humble, and desperately recognized his need for more of the Lord and less of himself.
I think that God sometimes lets evil spirits have their way with us, in order to accomplish His purposes. Even just in the past few days I have had to reach a spiritual low, in order to recognize how much I desire him, how much the things of this earth don't and won't satisfy, in order to cry out for Him to fill me again so that I am fulfilled and strengthened, and happy and have a sense of purpose and delight in life because of HIM.
I think evil spirits are around us all the time, and that God (and our own choices) says "yay or nay" as to their proximity. I think the farther we find ourselves from Him, the closer He (and we) allows those evil spirits to encroach on us, until we "remember" that indeed, His presence is where the peace and joy, love and fulfillment, protection and grace reside and we turn our back on the things of this world (and the evil spirits that long to attract us to them) and flee to Him.
I think the evil voices are from the devil... but that God uses them to provoke us to wake up and reach for Him, to go higher up and deeper in and leave the crap behind.
I still don't know. An evil spirit CANNOT be from God. It makes no sense. Certainly the farther removed we are from God the more open & vulnerable we are to satan's attack...but it's an entirely different thing for God to SEND the distressing spirit. I will mull.
I think maybe you're getting hung up on "from God". (that's exactly what my translation says by the way "An evil spirit from God is troubling you". I think it comes down to sovreignty. Think of the dynamics in the Satan/Job/God story. You could say God "sent" Satan to test Job in the same way I think this passage is using the term. God was not the instigator, that was Satan, but at the same time, Satan couldn't get anywhere near Job without God's say so, thus, God was definitely a part of the whole "satan went unto Job" to test him. Interesting topic, you've got me pondering too....
We are reading our way through the bible one chapter per day. The idea behind my personal reading plan is to read through books chronologically, but not solely one book at a time. Thus on Monday we read from the books of the law, Tuesday the books of kings and judges, Wednesday the books of Jewish History, Thursday Books of Wisdom, Friday the Prophets, Saturday the Gospels and Sunday the Epistles. The next Monday we pick up at the chapter we left off in ancient history. You may think that this would be disjointed and would cause you to "lose your groove" but I have found the contrary to be true, the threads of promise, redemption and grace show up more clearly as I make my way slowly through these books in a parrallel fashion and when I pick up where I left off a week before I am reminded of things that stood out to me from last week's reading. Journaling is a big part of my processing scripture and fixing particular tidbits in my mind for the purpose of life application. I would love to have you join me!
Basic Reading Plan
Mon (Law): Genesis-Joshua
Tues (Rulers): Judges-Chronicles
Wed (History): Ezra-Psalms
Thurs (Wisdom): Prov-Jer
Fri (Prophets): Lam-Malachi
Sat (Gospels): Matthew-Acts
Sun (Epistles) Romans-Revelation.
The theme I have given each section is general. Joshua is not a book of the law and Psalms is not a book of history. The main chunk of reading in each section is, however, suitably classified as the theme it is under. In order to make the sections even out to have the same general number of books/chapters, this was the closest I could come. Otherwise one would be reading through certain sections (like the Law) for instance, much more often than the wisdom books, etc.
(Fellowship is) an expression of both love and humility. [It] springs from a desire to bring benefit to others, coupled with a sense of personal weakness and need. It has a double motive – the wish to help, and to be helped; to edify, and to be edified. It has a double aim – to do, and to receive, good. It is a seeking by Christian people to know God better through sharing with each other what, individually, they have learned of Him already. J.I. Packer.
A few introductory words of encouragement....
Think of your time feeding on God's Word as a vital aspect of your health and wellness. You wouldn't go a week without brushing your teeth, or eating physical food, don't treat the nourishing of your soul by the Word of God with any less care.
Don't cram multiple chapters if you fall behind of plan, but *do* "back-read" if you have the passion and earnest desire to do so. My habit if I miss a chapter is usually to leave it until that book comes up again the next week (based on my own reading plan) and then read two consecutive chapters rather than the one I am scheduled to read.
Don't be legalistic about the when and how. If you don't get a quiet time in the morning, THAT'S OKAY. Find a moment in the afternoon to grab a drink, sit down and put your feet up, and soak up a chapter. And if that doesn't happen, THAT'S OKAY. Take 15-20 minutes at the end of the day to plump some pillows up in your bed and soak it up before you go to sleep. And if that doesn't happen, IT'S OKAY. Tomorrow is a new day. Don't let the enemy discourage you from spending time in the word TODAY because you didn't YESTERDAY. That's just dumb. Did you get that? DUMB.
If you don't have time to read, meditate. Allow God to bring a passage of scripture to mind and allow yourself to listen. Take time to be quiet in your spirit. While you are washing dishes, folding laundry, vacuuming... cleaning bathrooms.
Spruce things up. Get yourself a PRETTY journal and jot down little things that stand out to you. Use your favourite mug or a pretty glass to pour your favourite drink. Sit in your favourite spot (this could change from day to day and depending on the time of day you read. A sunny spot on the porch in the morning, a wing back chair and a blanket if it's chilly, a garden swing in the shade on a hot afternoon, or plumped up in bed with soft lamplight in the evening. Again, don't be legalistic about the location, pick a happy spot that fits the moment/opportunity.) Oh, and DON'T wait for the pretty journal. Plain lined notepaper or even a crumpled scrap paper will work just FINE until you get one....
Remember while you read, God's word is FOR YOU. yes, it was written to a particular audience in a particular time in history and for a particular reason. But it was also written with YOU in mind, TODAY in mind, and is designed to give you strength and wisdom for the journey.
Claim ONE part of the passage and take it to heart. Read through the chapter without too much introspection at first and see what part most stands out to you. Go back and look at that part more specifically and ask yourself what is in there for YOU?
Ask relevant questions. I usually look at a passage with 2 questions in mind. 1. What does this passage tell me about God's character? 2. What does this passage tell me about humanity (ie, ME, in relation to God? a final and very important question to ask is "What does this passage require of me on a practical level?" Write down one attitude, practice or truth you want you live out TODAY in light of what God has just revealed to you. This is how we take ownership of the Word of God and allow it to relate to us and shape us on a personal level.
Build yourself a monument. As I ponder a passages relevance to me I journal the thoughts that arise. Jotting them down somehow cements my convictions in my mind, almost like laying out stones in a monument so I can go back to that place later and be reminded. I also use those notes to come here and share my thoughts later with others.
Keep your actual quiet time concise. This will help make it more likely the habit will continue to happen on a regular basis. Better to spend 15 minutes in the word daily, than 1 hour once a week.
Don't require absolute "alone" and uninterrupted time (without kids around). If they are around, they can learn to not interrupt you for 15 minutes, just like you spend time with other people when they are around, you can spend time with the Lord with them around too.
Think of God’s Word as a love letter to you. When you read stories of God’s wrath in the Old Testament, think about WHAT love paid the price for all that wrath and how a hand that once smote anyone who dared touch the ark of His covenant now beckons YOU to draw near to the throne of grace. Read everything in light of who God is and how much He loves mankind that in spite of our being so deprived, His love story reaches out, encompasses us, washes us clean, and seeks to draw us near.
May you seek Him, may He be found by you, and may you be blessed on the journey.
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so I'm interested in a couple of things here.
First, why were the elders afraid of Samuel? "the elders of the town trembled at his coming and said, 'do you come peaceably?'"
Second, I wonder what it was like to have the Spirit of the Lord on you in those days. And was that a rare thing? Would it have been much like it is today for us?
Third, the distressing spirit from the Lord. It seems to be against God's character to send "distressing" spirits, no? What is that exactly? we spend a lot of time talking about "the little voices" that we sometimes listen to in our heads, and how those thoughts are not from the Lord...isn't that the same thing here, only it IS from the Lord?
"God does not see the same way people see. People look at the outside of a person, but the Lord looks at the heart." v7
The Lord looks at the heart. I wish our society obsessed about their "spiritual fitness" as much as they obsessed about physical fitness. I wish the hours invested in the good pursuit of physical fitness were balanced by hours invested in spiritual nurture and ministry. Not that the desire to be healthy or presentable is wrong, but the balance, or lack of it is rather disheartening.
It was David, who spent quiet hours writing love songs to the Lord and who had a heart that was passionate for pursuing righteousness despite all of his shortcomings and weaknesses, and who had the humility to fall on his face and confess what the sins he harbored in his heart that was "king" worthy in the eyes of the Lord. I've often thought that David wasn't a man after God's heart because he was a righteous man, but because he was humble, and desperately recognized his need for more of the Lord and less of himself.
I think that God sometimes lets evil spirits have their way with us, in order to accomplish His purposes. Even just in the past few days I have had to reach a spiritual low, in order to recognize how much I desire him, how much the things of this earth don't and won't satisfy, in order to cry out for Him to fill me again so that I am fulfilled and strengthened, and happy and have a sense of purpose and delight in life because of HIM.
I think evil spirits are around us all the time, and that God (and our own choices) says "yay or nay" as to their proximity. I think the farther we find ourselves from Him, the closer He (and we) allows those evil spirits to encroach on us, until we "remember" that indeed, His presence is where the peace and joy, love and fulfillment, protection and grace reside and we turn our back on the things of this world (and the evil spirits that long to attract us to them) and flee to Him.
I think the evil voices are from the devil... but that God uses them to provoke us to wake up and reach for Him, to go higher up and deeper in and leave the crap behind.
I still don't know. An evil spirit CANNOT be from God. It makes no sense. Certainly the farther removed we are from God the more open & vulnerable we are to satan's attack...but it's an entirely different thing for God to SEND the distressing spirit.
I will mull.
what does your translation say? Verses 14 & 15.
I think maybe you're getting hung up on "from God". (that's exactly what my translation says by the way "An evil spirit from God is troubling you". I think it comes down to sovreignty. Think of the dynamics in the Satan/Job/God story. You could say God "sent" Satan to test Job in the same way I think this passage is using the term. God was not the instigator, that was Satan, but at the same time, Satan couldn't get anywhere near Job without God's say so, thus, God was definitely a part of the whole "satan went unto Job" to test him. Interesting topic, you've got me pondering too....
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